Passing On Lessons Learned: Experiencing Growth Through Challenging Passages

The Tates have served the Lord in Kitale, Kenya since January 2008. Their main ministry is church planting.

December 6, 2025

Greetings in the name of Jesus Christ,

Many years ago (we’re looking at over thirty years ago now) I had just gotten married and surrendered to the ministry. Of course, I didn’t know what either of those things meant then, but experience would soon teach me a few things. One thing that I would experience would be an extremely valuable ministry lesson. A church nearby where I lived in Dayton, Ohio, had a long-time pastor who was retiring. This church was Union Baptist Church, a church I would grow to love, who still supports me on the mission field to this day, and a church to which I am very thankful. Because they were without a pastor, Union invited me to come for a month and preach and teach in the pastor’s place. This was the first time I preached at a church outside of my home church, a very frightening endeavor to say the least. After I had preached there on my first Sunday morning, the adult Sunday School teacher at the church approached me and invited me to teach the adult Sunday School class each Sunday as well. I thought, How hard can that be? and subsequently agreed. After all, I was 23 or 24 years old back then and still knew just about everything. He told me he was currently teaching through the book of Hebrews and that my passage for next Sunday would be the beginning of Hebrews chapter 6 and that I could just pick up from there and continue where he left off. Again, I agreed and left, not thinking too much about my task for next Sunday. However, when I got home and read the passage, I panicked. I thought, What am I going to do with that?!? Hebrews 6:4-6 says, “For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the Word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt.” So, yes, I panicked. Would you have panicked too if you had to teach on that passage? Well, I spent the whole week poring over that passage, praying about it, studying it, reading commentaries on it, fretting over it, and preparing my interpretation on it. I thought, well, this will be the last time I teach at THIS church. I went and taught that passage on Sunday, and, no, it wasn’t the last time I taught at this beloved and merciful church. I would teach and preach there for many years to come. I don’t even remember what I said on that day, but I do remember sweating bullets. I don’t even think the church members agreed with my interpretation, but they were very gracious to that stupid twenty-four-year-old preacher. They did ask me questions and made me defend my interpretation and afterward told me 1) it was a very difficult and challenging passage and 2) I had done a good job, even if they didn’t agree with my position. I have never forgotten the valuable lessons of that week, the “heat” of teaching that passage, or the graciousness of the beloved church.

I just finished teaching the class Hebrews & General Epistles to my students. Do you see now how the previous paragraph relates to this story? I want my students to experience what I experienced over thirty years ago in my own ministry. So, I made THEM team up and teach a one-hour lesson in the class from one of the challenging and difficult passages in the General Epistles. They can teach from the Hebrews 6:4-6 passage above, or from 1 Peter 3:21 (“Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you”), or James 5:15 (“And the prayer of faith will save the one who is sick and the Lord will raise him up”), or 1 John 3:6 (“No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him”), or any other challenging passage, as long as it is very difficult to interpret and challenging to teach. They have to study the passage, understand the various interpretations that have been offered, come up with their interpretation, anticipate the objections, and then teach the passage to the class. The class and the instructor then get to provide a “hostile” environment to the teaching students and ask them all the hard questions about the passage they can think of. It is meant to be “hot”, it is meant to be uncomfortable, it is meant to make them sweat but in the end they also know we all still love them even if we disagree with their interpretation or presentation of the passage. They all always come up to me after they are finished and tell me how hard it was, how hot it was at the front, how much they sweated, and ask me how I can stand up there and do that every day. I tell them that they will be faced with these situations throughout their ministry in front of much more “hostile” crowds than this one and that it is valuable to experience it first in front of a crowd that they know will love them no matter what. It is a very valuable lesson that I learned and then passed down to them. Thank you, Union Baptist Church, for the lessons and the graciousness.

Blessings to all,
Roger, Julie, & Chloe

Contact Info:

Roger & Julie Tate
Moffat Bible College
P.O. Box 70
Kijabe, Kenya 00220
rojuta@gmail.com

For ministry donations:
Pastor George Sledd, Treasurer of BFM
P.O. Box 471280 | Lake Monroe, FL 32747-1280
or click here to donate to BFM online.


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Faithful in Little, Faithful in Much

Greetings in the name of Jesus Christ,

The Tates have served the Lord in Kitale, Kenya since January 2008. Their main ministry is church planting.

Not long ago I was challenged by one of the people at the Chapel. If you are reading this and you are a pastor or a church leader you have probably been challenged to think through this too. And even if you are not a pastor or a church leader you have probably thought through this challenge before also. So, the challenge this Chapel lady gave me went something like this: “This Chapel is all about you. You do everything in the service. Nobody else gets a chance to get involved or to participate in the service. This Chapel is all about you”. 

First of all, I was forced to think through her challenge about the Chapel being all about me. Was I hoarding the service and ministry duties because of pride, or because I was the important one, or because nobody could do it better than me? I have had to think about this, not only when she spoke to me but also subsequently to that. And, no, I don’t think that is an issue. One, I am trying to give them an alternative, something different than they would typically receive in a typical Kitale church (that being: 1. Simple, Biblical teaching  2. Reasonable, heart-felt worship  3. A focus on knowing God and following Jesus  4. No health and wealth gospel  5. No “God is my genie” mentality  6. No emotional craziness  7. No…well, you get the point). I am the only one I trust right now to incorporate these elements. Two, there is no one who comes on a regular enough basis to entrust with ministry responsibilities.

I have always had the opinion that ministry responsibilities should be given to those who show faithfulness to a church, its services and its ministries. In other words, if you want to teach Sunday School then you should show yourself faithful to the church services and ministries. If you want to lead the worship and singing, then you should show that you are committed and dedicated to the services and ministries of the church. That is my opinion. The Chapel lady had another opinion. She told me that people were not being faithful because I hadn’t given them responsibilities and opportunities. If effect, her opinion was opposite of mine.

My view – Give ministry opportunities to those who show themselves to be faithful, committed and dedicated

Her view – Give ministry opportunities to the unfaithful, the non-committed and the un-dedicated in order to make them faithful, committed and dedicated

“He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much…” –Luke 16:10

I discussed this with her and gave her my position on the matter, explaining why I approached the matter in the way that I did. She obviously disagreed and told me that I should take a risk. After giving the matter some thought I decided to give the experiment a try after all. 

So, here is what I did. I asked one man if he would be the one to open up our services. I asked him to read a Bible passage, say a few words and pray in order to open up our weekly Sunday services. I asked another young man who knows how to play the guitar if he would learn a couple of songs and lead the Chapel in singing them. I let him choose some songs and I gave him song sheets with chords so that he could practice them and lead the Chapel to sing those songs on the next Sunday.

The results of my experiment? I am hesitant to share them, but, here they are. The man I asked to open our services came the next Sunday and did exactly what I had asked him to do. After that, he didn’t even show up for our services for three out of the next four Sundays, leaving me wondering if I should wait for him or start things myself. The other young man that I asked to lead some songs came the next Sunday but he hadn’t learned the songs. Then he missed two Sundays and when he returned on the third Sunday still hadn’t learned the songs, meaning I had to have songs ready each week to play, not knowing whether he would be ready or not. He still hasn’t learned the songs.

I don’t know if the results of my experiment are typical. I don’t know if I haven’t let it run long enough. I don’t know if it verifies my original opinion. Should I keep trying it? God knows.

Blessings to you all,
Roger, Julie & Chloe

CONTACT INFO

Roger & Julie Tate
P.O. Box 96
Kitale, Kenya 30200
rojuta@gmail.com

For ministry donations:
Pastor George Sledd, Treasurer of BFM
P.O. Box 471280 | Lake Monroe, FL 32747-1280
or click here to donate to BFM online.


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